Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: General Coochie

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: General Coochie

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we having very different opinions about how one should act on a forum, express themselves and whats needed in terms of proof and to make a statement as I did (note: not what proof is needed to make the statement true scientificly)

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I assumed that you understood why the usual rules of argumentation should be followed. My bad.

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What are the usual rules of argumentation then? Care to enlighten me?

If I got it all right this is basicly our discussion:

* You are arguing I made a statement that was an accusation towards someone without any proof.
* I am arguing that I had sufficient proof to make such statement. I'm also a bit skeptical calling my statement an accusation.

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Your arguments to back up your accusation (which is indeed an accusation) is:

Argument: Suspicious bounty-values such as 666, 1234 ect make it very probable that a bounty is fake AND that a significant part of 50 mil+ bounties are of such character.

Counterargument: Quick check of top 10 bounties shows NO bounty of such sort.
I then urged you to prove me wrong with better statistics which you declined

You later stated that ô I never said I can see/prove if a bounty is fake solely on the amount.ö

Argument: Then of course we have the players thats been pod killed only to the next day have the same bounty again which Ive seen on numerous occasions as well. Not that I pod outlaws often

This one seems to be based on you personal experience which you say isnÆt that extensive, yourself.

Counterargument: I also have personal experience from this. And I claimed the opposite, that IÆve never seen such a thing.

Word against word. If I were to claim that I got a buddy backing this up then IÆd have the upper hand in this argument.
You are free to provide further proof of your argument.

Argument: Common sense

Counterargument: Common sense if subjective and up to the individual to determine. I can just as well claim that common sense says the direct opposite of what youÆre saying it does.
You can of however prove me wrong by doing a survey to determine the general consensus in this matter.


Conclusion: Your statement was as much of an accusation as it would be if I were to say ômost The Bastards-members use log-off tacticsö.
You have provided very few and extremely weak arguments to back this up. NONE of the argument holds it own against any counterargument that I swiftly made just for the cause of making them. None of them has been backed by any facts but merely personal experience/opinions.
The strongest argument, would it be true, has been deemed false with a counterargument based on in game statistics (1234-bounties).

What else do you got to convince me that your initial statement is true? As it stands, more has been presented in the counteargument-side in this thread.
All you got left is your opinion, and thus the reason I suggested you changed your statement to a post of personal opinionà. Or that you provide sound arguments to back up your accusation.

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